Comments on: Evangelicals Get Involved http://www.revnev.com/2009/11/25/evangelicals-get-involved/ "Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you get neither." C.S. Lewis Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:47:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Ben http://www.revnev.com/2009/11/25/evangelicals-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-90 Ben Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:35:34 +0000 http://www.revnev.com/?p=279#comment-90 No "Church" that denies one is saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone can rightly be referred to as Christian by any historically Protestant understanding. That some - if not many - Evangelicals balk at this is evidence of the crisis in evangelicalism. Beyond that, no group that denies the Trinity can be legitimately called Christian by any historic definition. A group isn't Christian because they declare themselves to be so, nor are they Christian just because they have a cross on their building or say the word "Jesus" from time to time. Christianity is about doctrine. No “Church” that denies one is saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone can rightly be referred to as Christian by any historically Protestant understanding. That some – if not many – Evangelicals balk at this is evidence of the crisis in evangelicalism. Beyond that, no group that denies the Trinity can be legitimately called Christian by any historic definition. A group isn’t Christian because they declare themselves to be so, nor are they Christian just because they have a cross on their building or say the word “Jesus” from time to time. Christianity is about doctrine.

]]> By: Rev Nev http://www.revnev.com/2009/11/25/evangelicals-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Rev Nev Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:02:48 +0000 http://www.revnev.com/?p=279#comment-89 Ben – Who are you calling non-Christian? Perhaps you will elaborate here or in your piece. Ben – Who are you calling non-Christian? Perhaps you will elaborate here or in your piece.

]]> By: Ben http://www.revnev.com/2009/11/25/evangelicals-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Ben Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:25:08 +0000 http://www.revnev.com/?p=279#comment-87 Interesting... I too am in the midst of writing a piece on the Manhattan Declaration, except my perspective is from a confessional perspective that though I agree with the social positions, nonetheless disagrees with some important pieces in it while claiming to be Christian and yet including "factions" that are not Christian. Interesting… I too am in the midst of writing a piece on the Manhattan Declaration, except my perspective is from a confessional perspective that though I agree with the social positions, nonetheless disagrees with some important pieces in it while claiming to be Christian and yet including “factions” that are not Christian.

]]> By: Rev Nev http://www.revnev.com/2009/11/25/evangelicals-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-86 Rev Nev Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:55:51 +0000 http://www.revnev.com/?p=279#comment-86 Michael - I have a post in the works on the Manhattan Declaration. I wanted to get it mentioned right away so I put it here. If I had to give you an opinion right now, I'd say it is always good to define where we stand and why. Evangelicals need to speak out on these issues. On it's impact, this is where I am more skeptical. I don't know that this will have the intended effect. It might just sound like Christians popping off again if anyone in the LWM even bothers to report it. Love the cooperation between Church factions, too. Michael – I have a post in the works on the Manhattan Declaration. I wanted to get it mentioned right away so I put it here. If I had to give you an opinion right now, I’d say it is always good to define where we stand and why. Evangelicals need to speak out on these issues. On it’s impact, this is where I am more skeptical. I don’t know that this will have the intended effect. It might just sound like Christians popping off again if anyone in the LWM even bothers to report it. Love the cooperation between Church factions, too.

]]> By: Michael http://www.revnev.com/2009/11/25/evangelicals-get-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Michael Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:31:15 +0000 http://www.revnev.com/?p=279#comment-38 Eric, I see you posted a link to the Manhattan Declaration; however, I am interested to know your take on the positions stated in the document. I'm guessing you side with Mohler and Colson rather than the folks who are furious over it. Nevertheless, I would appreciate your thoughts concerning its wording and its impact. Have you signed it or are you going to sign it? Eric,

I see you posted a link to the Manhattan Declaration; however, I am interested to know your take on the positions stated in the document. I’m guessing you side with Mohler and Colson rather than the folks who are furious over it. Nevertheless, I would appreciate your thoughts concerning its wording and its impact. Have you signed it or are you going to sign it?

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